During Fox News’ midday panel show, Outnumbered, Payne expressed his disdain for Biden’s repeated false claim of having driven an 18-wheel big rig, stating that there is a significant difference between exaggerating and lying. He characterized the situation as surreal and likened it to a comedy plot. Marshall interjected, noting that Trump has also been known to lie and that he often receives leniency for his misstatements. Payne immediately interrupted Marshall, taking offense at her insinuation that he was calling her dumb. He emphasized that the issue was not occasional gaffes but rather Biden’s persistent pattern of misstatements.
Marshall attempted to clarify that she did not believe Payne was dumb, but Payne continued his outburst, repeatedly emphasizing the frequency of Biden’s gaffes. Marshall responded defensively, stating that she did not appreciate being called insulting. The debate escalated as other pro-Trump hosts on the panel joined in, criticizing Marshall for offering a mild defense of Biden’s verbal miscues. McEnany pointed to polls suggesting that a majority of American voters question Biden’s mental acuity based on his speech patterns. Marshall maintained her stance that occasional gaffes are normal, highlighting that she uses notes when giving speeches and is not running for president.