Chris and Andy open the show with a quick culture catch-up, discussing Sunday’s surprise Bluey episode, “Surprise!,” and Taylor Swift’s new double album, “Midnights.” They then dive into their unfiltered thoughts on the finale of the Apple TV+ series Shogun (9:30).
After the break, Chris and Andy welcome Shogun creators Rachel Kondo and Justin Marks to the show (25:40). They discuss how they approached writing the show, casting Cosmo Jarvis as the lead role of John Blackthorne, and the finale.
Kondo and Marks also talk about the show’s themes of culture clash, identity, and loyalty. They explain how they wanted to create a show that would be both entertaining and thought-provoking.
The interview concludes with Kondo and Marks discussing their hopes for the future of Shogun. They say that they are open to doing more seasons of the show and that they have some ideas for where the story could go next.
This episode of The Ringer’s Streaming Guide is a must-listen for fans of Shogun and for anyone interested in the creative process behind great television.